Curse

Moloch Vein · Mar 12, 2008, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Christ people are running around like headless chickens.

Oh and btw and all that Mystic's been nerfed a bit now... it might be better even to bring Healing Breeze... I have to check things, Chthon, please can you go through the options post-updates, I have to update the sticky sooner rather than later... *EDIT* I'm apparently talking out of my ***, MR is still stronger with 2 enchants for self healing and can be upkept indefinitely, however it's not such a good cover enchantment anymore...

I have to test how Contagion works with Infuse Condition, if it does work, it might actually be strong enough to consider bringing in PvE with the new Foul Feast...

Asha Rai · Mar 12, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Blizzard.

I'd go with this:

[skill]Order Of Undeath[/skill]-[skill]Animate Bone Fiend[/skill]-[skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill]-[skill]Blood Of The Master[/skill]-[skill]Healing Ring[/skill]-Rezz of some sort-2 random skills.

Emo mm tbh. Order of undeth plus a heal that will heal everything but you = suicidal, but also kindov funny

(needs more vamp horror)

@OP On topic, I think your build is solid enough, just need more soul reaping and less healing prayers. And while there are better elites and builds you could play with, you aren't majorly gimping yourself by running what you have there. Just get an army of 10 minions up, and keep them up, and you are doing 95% of the job of any mm (running the 1337est build the gurus here can suggest

). And your build is capable of that.

rick1027 · Mar 12, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by h9dlb

Is this ok ?

Attribs: 16 death magic, 5 blood magic, 3 soul reaping, 11 healing prayers

Skills:

Animate flesh golem
animate bone fiend
animate vampiric horror
animate shambling horror
dark bond
blood of the master
heal area
resurrect

Thanks

actually the only thing i might change is take out the vamp horror and replace with infuse condition. i always think three minion raising skills are enough. heal area is a ok you just got to use it when your sitting in one area waiting with no enemies around. i really wouldnt worry too much about healing yourself though as suggested by others your monks should be doing that and heal area will help if they neglect there job.

Pyro maniac · Mar 12, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Healing Prayers to heal the minions isn't good anymore. It used to be viable when using BotM + HA to make up for the sac cost (although there was an urban myth the minions would die faster).
Nowadays it is better to spec 8 earth prayers, keep up mystic regen and spam botm. (although with the nerf to MR it's advantage over HA is weakened)

Chthon · Mar 12, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

No Jagged Bones? <---which I haven't capped yet

I prefer Shambling Horrors and Bone Minions + Death Nova

That's a Minion Bomber build, not a Minion Master build. It's perfectly legitimate, just not what the OP asked for.

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Oh and btw and all that Mystic's been nerfed a bit now... it might be better even to bring Healing Breeze... I have to check things, Chthon, please can you go through the options post-updates, I have to update the sticky sooner rather than later... *EDIT* I'm apparently talking out of my ***, MR is still stronger with 2 enchants for self healing and can be upkept indefinitely, however it's not such a good cover enchantment anymore...

Well crap, I forgot about that. And mystic regen is by far the ugliest skill to do the math on too... Blah. Can't I just hope they'll change it back?

OP, please take my recommendation of mystic regen as a viable self-heal possibility with a grain of salt until I can work out exactly how hard this nerf hit it.

I guess I should do revisions for the buffed heal sig while I'm at it, not that I expect it to be viable....

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I have to test how Contagion works with Infuse Condition, if it does work, it might actually be strong enough to consider bringing in PvE with the new Foul Feast...

Heh -- Aura Bomber Minion Bomber! Might have trouble getting the MB up to the front lines for contagion to work though, especially if it's a hero.
Edit: Aw drat... it won't work:

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Originally Posted by wiki

When used with Infuse Condition, conditions you receive will be instantly transferred to your closest minion and Contagion will not trigger.

Olim Chill · Mar 12, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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3 soul reaping

As others have said, you really need to raise your Soul Reaping. You're just cheating yourself, otherwise.

Queen Undertaker · Mar 13, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

since the last nerf on mystic regen, healingfor a MM is a little tougher. I do not use golem ever anymore, not on a primary necro anyway. i u have proff go to fire islands and capp skill called Aura of the Lich. I use this skill even if not doing MM, if a suport role ill use it for my own health or damage control.

use infusse condition, no conditions on you, works well with vereta aura, the one that give them a regen, yes the skill is changed, u take all the minnions conditions, but if have infusse on, well it goese right back off.

use dark bond, only a few points in blood say 3. lasts 30-40 seconds and is cheap. 75% damage sent to minnion, add this with half damage with Aura, your taking like zero damage, also if with other MMs you SPAM Blood of the master and heal everyones pets for damage of like 50 if there is 20 60 or 64 if like 30 minnions. I only do that on AB. where the chance of finding more MMs, I see one I will tag behind him and tell him, u raise Ill heal. and we will run the map.

need 3 pets so always have one ready to cast.

get nightbringer staff due to double fast casting lines. You can make one if go to profficies and get colletor staff north of drocks, need 5 troll tusks for them, so go drocks again and farm them, one or 2 runs will take care of that. buy a adpet head 20% faster cast, and enchant 20% longer wrap. I liek this more than nightbringers 30 hp. you really, what is 30 hp going to do for you, your taking little to no damage.

only BIG thing to hurt you, like alwasy is a TOUCHER, just sit down and die hehe, if caught alone. and a person thats has bar set to strip ya.

i no longer use mystic regen due to the nerf and 2 seconf recharge is gone, so go with healing breeze at +7 and you will be good, have 20-30 pets around you, have aura on and HB and spam every 2 seconds blood of master, nuker will wipe out the fiends, but rest will do major damage and folks be pissed when they not dying hehe.

MM to me is very fun.